Thank you for shedding light on this. Add a comment. It's all about apples, oranges, bananas, etc. I bought the apples, oranges, etc. Edwin Ashworth My programmer side and my aesthetic side have been in a fight about this one for a long time. The first one said that now something is hanging in the air, but the other said it just didn't look right. Guess aesthetics win here. Prior to the invention of the Linotype, typographers would follow the abbreviation with a period and narrow space if it occurred mid-sentence, or with a period and wide space if it appeared at the end, thus avoiding ambiguity except in the case where the period was the last thing on the line an occurrence which people hand-setting type would try to avoid mid-paragraph whether the period marked an abbreviation, end of sentence, or both.
Unfortunately, Linotype-compatible typesetting conventions have erased the distinction. Shimmy I think your update should be a new question. Your original question was too long ago. Now your updated question, which contains a new question, has gone unnoticed for over a year.
I just happened to stumble across it from a Google search. Brandin I think it's pointless. I'll instead change the title too, and I yet updated the question again Barrie England Barrie England k 10 10 gold badges silver badges bronze badges. If you follow through on the Trask reference, you come to the recommendation 'The rule about using these Latin abbreviations [eg e.
Personally, I pick and choose amongst the self-appointed style gurus, and would only avoid ex -Latin abbreviations if the audience was especially fussy.
I've found a style guide which recommends dropping full stops from abbreviations unless ambiguities would thus arise; this convention avoids the original problem and cuts punctuation clutter. I just read the same thing in a Grammar Girl tip yesterday. I was a little surprised to read that.
I've never written " Well, no one has ever called me on that minor error, so I'll continue to make it. Some habits just aren't worth changing. BillFranke It's only an error if you get paid for fixing it.
StoneyB: Or if a journal editor or reviewer calls it an error and demands that I change it. I love it when non-native speakers and writers of English tell me, with the full authority of their PhD in microbiology behind them, that a sentence containing something like " The Associated Press Stylebook recommends capitalizing all prepositions of more than three letters e.
Others advise lowercase until a preposition reaches five or more letters. Still others say not to capitalize any preposition, even big words like regarding or underneath. In other words, there is no rule. If you are referring to prepositions in a title, each style guide has its own rules. We suggest you choose a style guide and remain consistent in your writing. This any many other scenarios where a period, exclamation point, or question mark exist within the sentence are the good reason sentences used to be separated by TWO spaces.
For the sake of having standards we can count on, please reinstate the double-space. There are a number of rules and practices that we would like to have control over. I believe W. Fields was a brilliant comic actor. I was informed when using etc. One for etc. Is this correct? If the last item in the sentence is an abbreviation that ends in a period, do not follow it with another period see Rule 2 of Periods.
Suppose you wanted students to write sentences. You provide them with two complete example sentences and want to put etc. Would you end the second sentence with a comma and include the etc. It does not contain a verb. A comma goes before etc. Student: I have a bed, a desk, etc.
Fair enough. However, the question still stands. The teacher wants the students to have conversations making sentences. By having the sentence: I have a bed, a desk, etc. We think that you are asking the word etc. You confused us, and it would likely confuse the students. We recommend more specific directions, including how long you want this exercise to go on:.
Student: I have a bed and a desk. Teacher: sentence here Student: sentence here. Subscribe and get curated reads that will help you write an excellent manuscript. Confirm that you would also like to sign up for free personalized email coaching for this stage. Q: When "etc. Answer Follow this Question. Answer: Generally, in American English, if "etc. Related reading: Research paper: Comma after "etc.
Finally, an abbreviation ending with a period that is immediately followed by a question mark or exclamation point requires both marks Q. Connect Follow on Twitter. Like on Facebook.
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